Disturbing News !!!!

[Noodles]

Apparently nothing is secure on the network.

The only thing is that its better to send confidential stuff from a network / ISP that has no interest in what you do .

Even Now, there are MSN sniffers that can detect all your conversations and record / save them without installing any software on yuor computer.

MSN is not safe and i reckon the same thing can be said about attachments. Even if you're sending emails and attachments from your personal email, it is not safe.

Does anyone of you mods / admins / users own a network? Can you guys like monitor emails sent through your network ? can you read and record msn conversations? (ofcourse you might not have the time or dont really care, but this is important because i want to know how far one is secure over the net.)

Even passwords...they are not safe at all. they can be stored and cracked later.

its really disturbing.!!!!

Edit: To be more Descriptive, i am talking about a company's network.....if you want to send attachments like a cv to another company, or talk to someone through msn (confidential stuff)!!! can stuff like that be monitored? i think so.....but i want your opinion. Is there a way to avoid all this spying....to secure my line? or is it only better to do all this outside the company? from another network....?

more ideas and elabrotations about cases are welcomed.

[Gridlock]

they can be monitored on a company network as it all is on main servers. and probably gets backed up nightly.

a while back when i was in school me and a couple friends got round our schools security and had an FTP running through from an outside computer.

a year or so later. the school got a new computer tech in.. he was better than us and he found our files, our movements and then found us.

all in all i think that your conversations and ALL movements over a work network can be traced back to you.

at the college im at now. there are around 25 Mac's there shared by around 100 students, as soon as a single person logs into the system it starts to record the screens and can also record multiple screens (all 25 Mac's if needed) but they will only check if there is something going on if they know where and what time it happened.

so you have an 85% chance of getting away with it all. ;)

thats what i think anyway. :)

[gordo]

for info on a network try wireshark, use google to find it.

[Ezekiel]

Does anyone of you mods / admins / users own a network?

Own a network? I'm 16...


Can you guys like monitor emails sent through your network ? can you read and record msn conversations?

If someone owned and managed a network, they could easily monitor all non-encrypted data passing through it. This includes MSN conversations.

[Noodles]

thanks ......

mike, you sound alot older than your age. add like 20 years to your 16 years and thats how old you sound, until your last post ie this one. i am respectively older than you but not that older. :p

[Ezekiel]

thanks ......

mike, you sound alot older than your age. add like 20 years to your 16 years and thats how old you sound

Is that a good thing...?

I guess I just had way too much free time thus learned random skills on the web, but my free time has pretty much evaporated now.

[Moonbat]

Apparently nothing is secure on the network.

The only thing is that its better to send confidential stuff from a network / ISP that has no interest in what you do .

Even Now, there are MSN sniffers that can detect all your conversations and record / save them without installing any software on yuor computer.

MSN is not safe and i reckon the same thing can be said about attachments. Even if you're sending emails and attachments from your personal email, it is not safe.

Does anyone of you mods / admins / users own a network? Can you guys like monitor emails sent through your network ? can you read and record msn conversations? (ofcourse you might not have the time or dont really care, but this is important because i want to know how far one is secure over the net.)

Even passwords...they are not safe at all. they can be stored and cracked later.

its really disturbing.!!!!

Edit: To be more Descriptive, i am talking about a company's network.....if you want to send attachments like a cv to another company, or talk to someone through msn (confidential stuff)!!! can stuff like that be monitored? i think so.....but i want your opinion. Is there a way to avoid all this spying....to secure my line? or is it only better to do all this outside the company? from another network....?

more ideas and elabrotations about cases are welcomed.

What else is new? Ever since ARPAnet evolved into what we know as the Internet, it's never been secure.

[Tenz]

nothing is secure no matter what you do within any network. unless you can bring in your own stand alone and somehow attach just on the outside of the network if you just want internet but if you want access to the server drives thats a diff story

[pontispilot]

dude shut up.

[SyntaXmasteR]

If an IT person wanted to track your every move he could. He can remotely connect to your machine and watch what you are doing if he wanted to. As soon as you log on to the network, he owns you (if he is a smart IT admin).

About your data... If the network uses hubs or simple switches your unencrypted data can be accessed by anyone on the network. When you send unencrypted data such as an email (non-https webmail) the hub transmits the data to every port on the hub (everyone connected to that hub). If I am sitting in the same room with a packet sniffer installed on my computer I can grab all of the data you are transmitting. So to answer you question, you are probably completely unsecured not only from your IT watchers but also any networked user.

You can read more information about how Hubs, Switches, and Routers work here:
[Hubs, Switches, Routers (http://www.smallbusinesscomputing.com/webmaster/article.php/3498476)

[Nexus_Logik]

Privacy has always been a issue with the internet, the internet was not ment to become what it is. E-commerce, personal websites name it. It is a service that has evolved to a platform, a medium beyond it's creators ideals. But this is good thing along with a bad. Because of the internet we all have access to a vast network of information, however this is also a bad thing, because we have access to a vast network of information. if you want to be secure, even slightly, look into using a non conventional encryption, make sure to use a proxy system such as tor when register or visiting sites. There are many minor things you can do to make yourself "Slightly" more secure.