yah, ive noticed how slow it is after testing it lastnight... its actually not very accurate neither, it seems like to me from what ive read that brute force login is sorta not as popular as it was in the *0s era, cracking itself is so complicated that i think most methods of trojan/keylogging seems better off rather then brute force, well anyways ive been reading up learning as much as i can within these few days and i was wondering where can i try all this stuff im learning without getting in trouble? im learning but i need to experiment a lil in order to fully understand. well if anyones willing to help either here or on aim/msn i'd rather speak on aim if one of you wanna help hit me up with a message and we'll talk thanks guys!