Thanks Marinecat. Have had no problems with this thing in a month or so now. Will try Spybot. No hesitation in explorer and shutdown only takes a couple seconds.

New question: I am looking for a very complete site with virus definitions or explanations of what they do. Searched Google and from there Norton and Symantec on these two I detected today in a download. * is BRD/DRAT.**0 (backdoor trojan?) and 2. TR/CLICK.Small.AD.5. I saw these two in a list but no info.